Wednesday, July 31, 2013

Dick Gagel asks "isn't the XII [Dynasty of Egypt] too early?" for Moses.



Dear Damien,

I must have had your paper on Moses ages ago, made my notes in the margin but never shared my understanding of the man's early life with you.
Used the following to gainsay those who called him and the Exodus "a myth".
It would appear we differ on both dynasties and chronology - isn't the XII too early?
MOSES was a general, as fully described by Josephus in Antiquities, Book II, ch X.
In ch XI, after he had virtually saved Egypt as its victorious general over the Ethiopians/Cushites, he had to flee for his life from an assassination plot. He was heir to a throne in Egypt as the ruler had a daughter but no grandchildren. Josephus: "if Moses had been slain, there was no one, either a kin or adopted, that had any oracle on his side for pretending to the crown of Egypt." Here are our clues - a dynasty in which Moses is General, and one which effectively ended at the point in history that Moses fled and did not regain authority in the land. There is such a dynasty which also exercised jurisdiction in the Northeastern Delta where Israel dwelt and Moses was found - Dynasty XIII.
The total length of this dynasty according to Africanus' and Eusebius' epitomes from Manetho was 453 years under 60 rulers. But the version of Barbarus provides a missing detail from Manetho. It reveals that for a time the court was not only at Thebes, but at Bubastis in the Delta for the first 153 years (Alfred Schoene's edition of Eusebius, p. 214).
In the Turin Canon catalogue of kings of the thirteenth dynasty, listed number 17, is "The General" with the throne name of Semenkhkare (Gardiner's Egypt of the Pharaohs, p. 440; and Weigall's History of the Pharaohs, pp 136, 151-152). The Egyptian word for "the General" was Mermeshoi - not in all dynastic history does this title appear again as the personal name of a ruler of Egypt.
When Moses was made General or Commander of the Troops, he automatically inherited royal authority, as only kings could have the supreme command of the army, explaining his appearance in the list. Before the rise to power of this famous General, the thirteenth dynasty was of Asiatic blood. Its kings at time bore the epithet "the Asiatic" - hence no basic prejudice in adopting the Hebrew child Moses into the family. (See volume II, ch II of the revised Cambridge Ancient History, ed.1962.)
The sixteenth king listed in the Turin Canon - just before "the General" - is Userkare Khendjer - the latter being an un-Egyptian personal name. He ruled over the Delta as well as Upper Egypt. A pyramid of his has been found at South Saqqara. No descendant of his is known to have succeeded to the throne. Though nothing more is known of this man's family, every evidence points to him as the Pharaoh whose daughter is mentioned in the book of Exodus. Within a few years the influence of this dynasty in the eastern Delta ceased.
The kings of this obscure period often have their names associated with king Neferkare (Turin Canon) on royal seals who is Phiops of Manetho, and commonly known as Pepi the Great. Here is the final proof that these minor rulers of Dynasty XIII were contemporaneous with the last great Pharaoh of the sixth dynasty of Memphis - the pharaoh of the Oppression. More than one name on a scarab has puzzled many historians, who view Egypt as generally ruled by one king at a time, but literally hundreds of such seals have been found. They are generally treated with discreet silence, for the implication of these seals would revolutionise the history of Egypt. (See The Sceptre of Egypt, by William C Hayes,, Vol.I, p.342)
Moses is finally able to return to Egypt "and it came to pass in the course of those many days that the king of Egypt died" (Ex. 2:23) confirms that it was a long wait as Pepi the Great ruled for 94 years and died at age 100, succeeded by his son Menthesuphis (Manetho) or Merenre II-Antyemzaef (Turin Canon) - the Pharaoh of the Exodus who ruled only one year 1487-1486, perishing in the Red Sea.
His widow Nitocris (Manetho) or Nitokerty (Turin Canon) ruled 12 years, followed by their son Neferka "the younger" - his first born elder brother and heir presumptive having died at the time of the Exodus.
Manetho ends his list here as the invading Hyksos having by then taken full control of the country with their Dynasty XV and ruled Egypt for the next 400 years.
I feel we are on safe ground to designate Pepi the Great as the oppressive pharaoh. Userkare Kendjer with an ethnic affinity with the Hebrews does not strictly apply the rules emanating from Memphis by elevating Moses who must later have gained huge popularity following his military success. Those factors may well have raised serious concerns at Memphis HO, prompting Pepi the Great to seek Moses' death by giving those assassination orders to the Bubastis court, and also maintaining his fatwa against Moses till the end of his life and reign.

Best regards
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Damien Mackey replies:
 
Dear Dick

I just remembered that I, a few months ago, wrote a proposed synthesis of the biblical era, from Abraham to the Exodus, with the corresponding Egyptian history (and archaeology). See my:
 

Connecting the Biblical Patriarchs to Ancient Egypt


The article still has to be finished, but it already contains the basis of what my view is. Fundamental to my reconstruction are the following (after that I am tentative):
 
-The archaeological period from Abram at the time of the four Mesopotamian kings, to the Exodus, is bookended by Abram in Late Chalcolithic and Ghassul IV (Transjordan) and the Exodus Israelites as the Middle Bronze I (MBI) people.
-According to this archaeological evidence, Abram was contemporaneous with pharaoh Narmer, who may even have been the Pharaoh of Abram and Sarai. This latter, the biblical Abimelech pharaoh of Abraham and Isaac, was clearly a very long-reigning ruler, which would suit pharaoh Aha, the first dynastic king (who may have been Narmer, and Menes).
-Joseph is surely Imhotep, and Ptah-hotep.
-I fully accept the expert testimony of Dr R. Cohen (Israelites as MBI) and Professor Emmanuel Anati (Har Karkom is Mount Sinai).
-Anati notes (and I accept this) that the story of the Egyptian Sinuhe shares ‘a common matrix’ with that of Moses fleeing Egypt for Midian. (Obviously there are some vast differences as well between these two tales). That nails Moses to Late Amenemes I and early Sesostris I. Revisionists have found some striking 12th dynasty correlations with the Exodus account (e.g. those bricks mixed with straw).
-The MBI people do just what the Israelites did in their trek through the Paran desert,
Transjordania and into Palestine, where Early Bronze Jericho falls.
 
The 13thdynasty may possibly be partly contemporaneous with the life of Moses.
But be careful. The name, “Moses”, did not mean “General”. It was given to Moses with the meaning of being “drawn from the water” (Exodus 2:10): “She named him Moses, saying, "I drew him out of the water”." So that might shake your correspondence between Mermoshis and Userkare K.
(Perhaps Joseph, not Moses, was more likely to have left a dynasty of Asiatics).
You will see that I, too, have the 6th dynasty contemporaneous with the era of Moses, though I have not yet been able fully to integrate it all. Given my synthesis of dynasties (following Courville’s clue but not his model), then some 13th dynasty princes (or whatever they were) may well have been contemporaneous with the 6th dynasty’s Neferkare (Pepi the Great).
But Pepi the Great was not a founder, a “new king” (exodus 1:8), so you perhaps need to allow for two major pharaohs before the Pharaoh of the Oppression: namely, the founder Pharaoh and then, as according to the Artapanus tradition, the “Chenephres”(Neferkare?) who married Moses’ Egyptian ‘mother’, “Merris” (Meresankh, or Meres-ankh).
Artapanus’s“Chenephres” (Neferkare) and “Merris” pattern is fulfilled both with Chephren and Ankhesenmerire (i.e. Meresankh), in the 4th dynasty, and perhaps with Huni (Neferkare) and Meresankh, as explained in the above article, in relation to Sneferu (as Moses).
Merenre, followed by Nitocris, then the Hyksos, is a pattern that I, too, have previously proposed for the finale – but without properly having been able to blend the entire 6th dynasty with the biblical picture.
 
I hope that this is helpful
Damien.

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Tuesday, July 23, 2013

Parallels in the lives of Jacob and Joseph.


There are many similarities between Jacob the son of Isaac and Rebekah and Joseph the son of Jacob and Rachel. (Everything in Italics is from Louis Ginzberg's - Legends of the Jews - Volume 2. - I don't recommend it)
1. As the mother of Jacob remained childless for a long time after her marriage, so also the mother of Joseph.

a. Rebekah and Isaac had to wait twenty years before having their twin boys Jacob and Esau

b. In the first place Rachel had to wait 14 years to even marry Jacob because Uncle Laban had tricked Jacob into marrying Leah. Then Everyone was having children but Rachel who eventually died giving birth to Benjamin.

2. As Jacob's mother bore two sons, so also Joseph's mother.

a. Rebekah bore two sons, Jacob and Esau.

b. Rachel bore two sons, Joseph and Benjamin.

3. Like the father, the son appropriated his older brother's birthright.

a. Jacob received the birthright from Esau because Esau sold it to him for a bowl of soup.

b. Joseph received the birthright for a few reasons.

i. The first is the Reuben the firstborn son, tried to take over the family in an incestuous way and fell out of his fathers favor.

ii. The second was that Rachel was Jacobs favorite wife and therefore her children were his favorite children, Joseph being the eldest.

4. The father was hated by his brother, and the son was hated by his brethren.

a. Jacob was hated by his brother Esau because not only had Esau lost the birthright for a bowl of soup, but he lost the blessing from his father Isaac because Jacob tricked Isaac into giving it to him.

b. Joseph was hated by his brothers because he was clearly the favorite of his father and he kept having these dreams that his brothers would one day bow down to him, and he told his brothers the dreams.

5. The father was the favorite son as compared with his brother, so was the son as compared with his brethren.

a. Isaac actually favored Esau for a while because he was a hunter cooked food just like Isaac wanted. After he lost the blessing and birthright though, he married some pagan women just to spite his parents.

b. Joseph was the favorite because he was from the favorite wife, as stated earlier.

6. Both the father and the son lived in the land of the stranger.

a. Jacob lived in Haran

b. Joseph lived in Egypt

7. The father became a servant to a master, also the son.

a. Jacob was a servant to Uncle Laban for at least 14 years trying to get permission to marry Rachel.

b. Joseph was a servant in Egypt.

8. The master whom the father served was blessed by God, so was the master whom the son served.

a. While Jacob was in the service of Laban, God blessed the house of Laban.

b. While Joseph served Potiphar and Pharaoh in Egypt, both were blessed by his presence.

9. The father and the son were both blessed with wealth.

10. Great things were announced to the father in a dream, so also to the son.

11. As the father went to Egypt and put an end to famine, so the son.

12. As the father exacted the promise from his sons to bury him in the Holy Land, so also the son.

13. The father died in Egypt, there died also the son.

14. As the father's remains were carried to the Holy Land for interment, so also the remains of the son.

The significance of these parallels.

As we have seen in other bible tidbits Joseph is a type of Christ figure. And as such I think that it is saying he is so like his father that they do the same things, just like Joseph and Jacob do the same things.

But if we can step back even further we see parallels between Abraham and Isaac. Both bear two children, one blessed, one not so blessed. They both have a hard time conceiving and there are more.

I think in a spiritual interpretation Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph all tell the story of salvation.

Abraham is a type for God the Father who offers his son Isaac as a sacrifice.

Isaac as a type of Christ gives birth to Jacob who is a types of the church with the twelve sons.

The sons of Israel (meaning the church) are sent to the nations to feed them, spiritually and physically.
bill bannonsaid...
 
Joseph like Christ is handed over to the Gentiles by his brothers where Joseph is falsely accused and descends into prison from which he rises to the right hand of pharoah just as Christ descends into hades and rises to the right hand of the Father. From the right hand of pharoah, Joseph feeds a starving world with grain from the grainaries whereas from the right hand of the Father, Christ feeds a world starving to be good ...with the Eucharist which is Himself from the grainaries which are the dioceses. Joseph wore a multi colored cloak but Christ wore a seamless garment. Joseph's brothers stand for the Jews whom Joseph/ Christ loves but as they speak to Him...Joseph disguises his identity for now but in the end will talk to them undisguised as Christ.
 

Tuesday, July 9, 2013

On Nimrod, Amraphel and Hammurabi




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Elijah said...
Sitchen is correct that AmarPal is Amar-Sin whose 9 years (1943-1934bc) are 151 years before Hamurabi (1792-1750bc). However, both share a misidenitifcation as Nimrod. Nimrod lived 500 years, AmraPal lived 215 years. The war of Abram with AmarPal has been reinterpreted as a war between Nimrod and Abram. The 13-year Mars as Marduk new year spans from Babylon's first king dying in 1881bc (14-year rule) to Shem's death, to Esau selling his birthright at 16 the year after Abram died, resulting in the interpretation that this Marduk is Nimrod whom Shem killed and then 26 years later Esau killed.
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The death of 500-year old Nimrod in year 600 (2256am) is actually age 499 in year 599 (1770bc April 22 death on Mekir 15). Since Ussher shifts 21 years, this places year 599 of Ussher Flood 2349bc in 1750bc as if Nimrod's death is dead Hamurabi. Ussher is not the only person to use 1750bc instead of 1770bc. The Maya use 1770bc as Adams 3600, Noahs 1344; but Africanus uses the same 1488 (double 744) that Mayan and Hippolytus use. Mayan Flood 3114-2370-1626bc Amizaduga, Hippolytus Flood 3258-2514-1770bc, Africanus Flood 3238-1750bc. The Nimrod of 2514bc is the 500x 360-day to 2021bc the Dec 25 Xmas of Noah's death used instead as Nimrod's death.
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AMAIC replies:

Dear Elijah

See our "Zimri Lim to be Re-Located to Era of King Solomon", at:

http://amaic-archaeology.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/zimri-lim-to-be-re-located-to-era-of.html

wherein the names and/or characters of Solomon's era can be found in the time of Zimri-Lim,

(a) who is the biblical Rezin (Rezon),

(b) whose father Iahdulim is the biblical Eliada,

(c) whose Syrian foe, Shamsi-Adad I, is the biblical Hadadezer,

(d) whose father, Uru-kabkabu, is the biblical Rekhob.

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Tuesday, July 2, 2013

Abraham’s appeal goes to the heart of the Lord


 
2013-07-01 Vatican Radio
 
(Vatican Radio) We must pray with courage to the Lord, and with tenacity just as Abraham did. That’s what Pope Francis said to the faithful gathered for early morning Mass in the chapel of the Vatican guest house Santa Marta Monday. The Pope reiterated that praying is also “negotiating with the Lord,” even coming “out of left field” as Jesus teaches us.
Listen to Tracey McClure's report:
Cardinal Kurt Koch, President of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and Secretary Bishop Brian Farrell concelebrated today’s mass which was attended by members and staff of the same council.
In his homily, Pope Francis referred to Abraham’s courage and tenacity in appealing to the Lord to spare the city of Sodom from destruction. Pope Francis drew from the First Reading, observing that “Abraham is a courageous man and prays with courage.” Abraham, he said, “finds the strength to speak face to face with the Lord and attempts to defend that city.” And he does it with tenacity. In the Bible therefore, the Pope said, we can see that “prayer must be courageous.”

“When we speak of courage we always think of apostolic courage – going out to preach the Gospel, these sort of things…But there’s also (the kind of) courage (demonstrated) before the Lord. That sense of paralysis before the Lord: going courageous before the Lord to request things. It makes you laugh a bit; this is funny because Abraham speaks with the Lord in a special way, with this courage, and one doesn’t know: is this a man who prays or is this a‘phoenician deal’ because he’s bartering the price, down, down…And he’s tenacious: from fifty he’s succeeded in lowering the price down to ten. He knew that it wasn’t possible. Only that it was right…. But with that courage, with that tenacity, he went ahead.”

Sometimes, the Pope said, one goes to the Lord “to ask something for someone;” one asks for a favor and then goes away. “But that,” he warned, “is not prayer,” because if “you want the Lord to bestow a grace, you have to go with courage and do what Abraham did, with that sort of tenacity.” The Pope recalled that Jesus himself tells us that we must pray as the widow with the judge, like the man who goes in the middle of the night to knock on his friend’s door. With tenacity.
In fact, he observed, Jesus himself praised the woman who tenaciously begged for the healing of her daughter. Tenacity, said the Pope, even though it’s tiring, is really “tiresome.” But this, he added, “is the attitude of prayer.” Saint Teresa, he recalled, “speaks of prayer as negotiating with the Lord” and this “is possible only when there’s familiarity with the Lord.” It is tiring, it’s true, he repeated, but “this is prayer, this is receiving a grace from God.” The Pope stressed here the same sort of reasoning that Abraham uses in his prayer: “take up the arguments, the motivations of Jesus’ own heart.”

“To convince the Lord with the Lord’s own virtues! That is beautiful! Abraham’s appeal goes to the heart of the Lord and Jesus teaches us the same: ‘the Father knows things. The Father – don’t worry – sends rain down on the just and the sinners, the sun for the just and for the sinners.’ With that argumentation, Abraham forges ahead. I will stop here: praying is negotiating with the Lord, even becoming inappropriate with the Lord. Praying is praising the Lord in the beautiful things he shares and telling him that he bestow these beautiful things on us. And (appealing to him) who is so merciful, so good, to help us!”

Pope Francis then urged everyone to spend no more than five minutes each day to read Psalm 102:

‘Bless the LORD, O my soul;
and all my being, bless his holy name.Bless the LORD, O my soul,
and forget not all his benefits. He pardons all your iniquities,
he heals all your ills.He redeems your life from destruction,
he crowns you with kindness and compassion.’

“Pray all of this psalm and with this we learn the things we must say to the Lord when we request a grace. ‘You who are Merciful and forgiving, grant me this grace:’ just as Abraham did and as Moses did. We forge ahead in prayer, courageous, and with these motivations which come right from the heart of God himself.”

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Taken from: http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-francis-prayer-requires-courage-tenacity