Sunday, October 26, 2025

Genesis and the Chinese

by Damien F. Mackey Some have raised the point that the ancient Chinese dynastic civilisation is - just as the archaïc Egyptian civilisation was once thought to have been – so ancient that it antedates even the Genesis estimations for the beginning of humanity and the Flood. Introduction For a long time, until evolutionary thinking and dating models set in, the date for the creation of the world was generally accepted (by those who believed that it was indeed created by God) at around 4000 BC. James Ussher (1581-1656), Archbishop of Ireland, famously dated this grand event to midday on Sunday October 23, 4004 BC. But when, some centuries later, chronologists of ancient civilisations arrived at dates for the beginnings of dynastic history that well pre-dated this biblical estimation, then the Genesis account fell into ridicule. How could there be sophisticated civilisations on earth prior to the creation of the world? Taking the case of ancient Egypt, the highly-regarded chronologist, Eduard Meyer, of the Berlin School of Egyptology, had astronomically dated the beginning of Egyptian dynastic history to 4240 BC, some centuries earlier than archbishop Ussher’s date for creation. I discussed the worth of Meyer’s astronomical model in my: The Fall of the Sothic Theory: Egyptian Chronology Revisited https://www.academia.edu/3665220/The_Fall_of_the_Sothic_Theory_Egyptian_Chronology_Revisited Meyer’s fictitious long-range calendar …. Meyer‘s belief that the ancient Egyptians had actually used this Sothic period of 1,460 years as a kind of long-range calendar is pure supposition, with no evidence in support of it. In fact Meyer had to go to Classical texts to get some of his key information: to Theon, an Alexandrian astronomer of the late 4th century AD, and to the 3rd century AD Roman author, Censorinus. According to Meyer’s interpretation of the Sothic data as provided by Censorinus, a coincidence had occurred between the heliacal rising of Sirius and New Year‘s Day in the 100th year before Censorinus wrote his book, De Die Natali Liber, c. AD 140.7 Meyer was therefore able to determine from there, using multiples of 1,460, his Sothic series of AD 140, 1320 BC, 2780 BC and 4240 BC. However, Censorinus had not actually connected the 1,460-year period with Sirius; his evidence contradicts that of Theon, according to whom the conclusion of a 1,460-yearperiod had occurred in the 5th year of the emperor Augustus — 26 BC, as opposed to Censorinus’ testimony that a Great Year had commenced in c. AD 140. …. [End of quote] That date of 4240 BC for the unification of Egypt under pharaoh Menes (First Dynasty) became the accepted norm until wiser heads prevailed. However, whilst the date for Menes currently stands at c. 3100 BC - considerably lower than both Meyer’s estimation and the era of Creation - the broad pattern of Meyer’s artificial Sothic arrangement still prevails. But even 3100 BC is about a millennium too early for Menes, I have argued in: Narmer a Contemporary of Patriarch Abraham (4) Narmer a contemporary of Patriarch Abraham and: Dr. W.F. Albright’s Game-Changing Chronological Shift (4) Dr. W.F. Albright's game-changing chronological shift Today, a more fertile ground for critics may be ancient China, which, like Egypt once again, has known many dynasties. Biblical lecturer John D. Morris (Institute for Creation Research) tells of his having been the recipient of such a query from a scholar about the Chinese: http://www.icr.org/article/how-can-chinese-dynasties-extend-back-many-thousan/ I was lecturing on the Biblical and scientific evidence for recent creation to a university audience in Hong Kong, China, when a scholar raised the objection: “The Chinese have a documented history going back many thousands of years, much earlier than your dates for creation and the Flood. We have known dynasties and named rulers. The Bible must be wrong”. Critics have said the very same thing about the Egyptian and other ancient histories, presuming them to be right, hence the Bible must be wrong. The fact is that, when exposed to the torch of scrutiny, they are found to be, not right. What about China? China’s Documented Dynasties According to John D. Morris, reliably documented Chinese history does not even precede 2000 BC: The solution lies in an examination of the earliest Chinese dynasties. Actually, precisely documented dynasties go back only to about 2000 B.C. The first true dynasty was founded about 4000 years ago by a leader remembered for having "sweetened the waters," making the land habitable after wide-spread flooding. The ten listed dynasties before that, however, were of a different sort, with very long lives and questionable details attributed to them. [End of quote] This sounds suspiciously Noachic and reminds one of the great Genesis Flood. And I shall be having more to say about Noah and the Chinese. Fr. Hieromonk Damascene will begin by exploring an earlier phase of Genesis in his article, “Ancient Chinese History in Light of the Book of Genesis” (I do not necessarily accept Fr. Damascene’s dates): http://www.orthodox.cn/localchurch/200406ancientcnhist_en.htm 1. The Chinese Border Sacrifice: The Earliest Chinese Theology and Worship of God In looking at the Chinese history in light of the Book of Genesis, it will be helpful to look first at the earliest known religion in China. Later, we will see how this ancient religion fits in with the Biblical account of ancient history. The earliest account of religious worship in China is found in the Shu Jing (Book of History of Book of Documents), the oldest Chinese historical source. This book records that in the year 2230 B.C., the Emperor Shun “sacrificed to Shangdi.” That is, he sacrificed to the supreme God of the ancient Chinese, Shangdi meaning Supreme Ruler. This ceremony came to be known as the “Border Sacrifice,” because at the summer solstice and Emperor took part in ceremonies to the earth on the northern border of the country, and at the winter solstice he offered a sacrifice to heaven on the southern border. The Chinese have been called one of the most history-conscious and tradition-conscious peoples of the world. This is seen in many aspects of Chinese culture. Perhaps it is seen most of all in this very Border Sacrifice which the Emperor performed twice a year. This ceremony, which goes back at least to 2230 B.C. was continued in China for over four thousand years, up until the fall of the Manchus in A. D. 1911. Even though the people gradually lost an understanding of what the ceremony was all about, and Shangdi was obscured behind all kinds of pagan deities in China, nevertheless the worship of the one God, Shangdi, was continued faithfully by the Emperor up into modern times. The oldest text of the Border Sacrifice that we have dates from the Ming Dynasty. It is the exact text of the ceremony that was performed in A. D. 1538, which was based on the existing ancient records of the original rituals. Let us look at portions of the recitation script that the Emperor used. …. The Emperor, as the high priest, was the only one to participate in the service. The ceremony began: “Of old in the beginning, there was the great chaos, without form and dark. The five elements [planets] had not begun to revolve, nor the sun and the moon to shine. In the midst thereof there existed neither forms for sound. Thou, O spiritual Sovereign, camest forth in Thy presidency, and first didst divide the grosser parts from the purer. Thou madest heaven; Thou madest earth; Thou madest man. All things with their reproductive power got their being.” This recitation praising Shangdi as Creator of heaven and earth sounds surprisingly like the first chapter of Genesis: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep” (Genesis 1: 1- 2). So, in the earliest records of Chinese religion, we see that the people worshiped One God, Who was Creator of all. We also see that the original people of China looked at Shangdi with a sense of love and a filial feeling. The Emperor continued his prayer: “Thou hast vouchsafed, O Di, to hear us, for Thou regardest us as a Father. I, Thy child, dull and unenlightened, am unable to show forth my dutiful feelings.” As the ceremony concludes, Shangdi is praised for His loving kindness: “Thy sovereign goodness is infinite. As a potter, Thou hast made all living things. Thy sovereign goodness is infinite. Great and small are sheltered [by Thee]. As engraven on the heart of Thy poor servant is the sense of Thy goodness, so that my feeling cannot be fully displayed. With great kindness Thou dost bear us, and not withstanding our shortcomings, dost grant us life and prosperity.” These last two recitations, taken together, bear the same simile as found in the Prophecy of Isaiah in the Bible: “But now, O Lord, Thou art our Father; we are the clay, and Thou our Potter and we all are the work of Thy hand” (Isaiah 64: 8). In general, reading the text of the Border Sacrifice reminds one strongly of the prayers of the ancient Hebrews as found in the Old Testament: the same reverent awe before God, the same self abasement, humility and gratitude before His greatness. For us Christians, these most ancient of Chinese prayers to God are strangely familiar. Why is this? It seems that the most ancient Chinese religion and the ancient Hebrew religion are drawn from the same source. And that is indeed the case, as we will see. …. Further on, Fr. Damascene returns to earliest Genesis and the Chinese. {Some of his conclusions here may be a bit strained}: The first people of China could have heard about the creation, the Fall, and life before the Flood from Noah himself. And Noah, as we have said, could have learned about these things, through one or at most two intermediaries, from Adam himself. This gives us an idea of how close were the first Chinese people to the first man, Adam. We know that when the original settlers of China came to their new land, they brought the religion of Noah with them. We know this from the Border Sacrifice of which we spoke earlier. The Border Sacrifice was like the sacrifices of Noah, which were like the sacrifices of Adam. And, as we have seen, the God that was invoked at the Border Sacrifices was the One God, the Creator of universe, that both Noah and Adam worshiped. The prayers that were at the Chinese Border Sacrifice bear remarkable similarity to the prayers of the ancient Hebrews because both come from the same source: the religion of Noah. An interesting point to ponder is why the Chinese called their sacrifices “Border Sacrifices,” and why the Emperor traditionally performed them at the border of the Empire. We know that Adam would have performed his sacrifices outside the borders of Paradise, probably as close as possible to Paradise, outside the Gate that was guarded by the Cherubim. It is possible that the Chinese Border Sacrifice were based on the tradition of a “border sacrifice” from the time of Adam. Noah, the Flood, and Chinese history “The first thing that students of Chinese history learn is that Chinese history began with a Flood. This is not surprising, since we know that ancient peoples from all the continents of the world have a story of a Great Flood which covered all the earth as a judgment on man’s sin. In many cases, the details are remarkably like the details recorded in the book of Genesis. The Aboriginal peoples of Australia, for example, speak of a global flood and how only eight people escaped it in a canoe”. As we have already learned, Chinese dynastic history goes back only as far as c. 2000 BC. Hence, the accusation by certain critics that early Genesis (Creation and the Flood) is negatived due to a presumed antedating of it by well documented Chinese history, is found to be quite groundless. And this revised chronological perspective finds apparent support in articles according to which the origin of the Chinese people was from Canaan, a post-Flood descendant of Noah’s son, Ham - that Canaan’s descendant, Sin, gave rise to the Sinites, or Chinese (Genesis 10:17). These conclusions, if correct, would strictly regulate the beginnings of Chinese dynastic history. The following article (not all details, e.g. the dates, of which I would necessarily endorse) likewise argues for a close relationship between the earliest Chinese and Mesopotamia: http://www.cumorah.com/index.php?target=view_other_articles&story_id=7&cat_id=3 Nineteenth century French Academy laureate Albert Etienne Terrien de Lacouperie extensively studied the relationship between China and the West, and wrote numerous articles and books on the subject. In Western Origin of the Early Chinese Civilization (London, Asher & Co., 1894), he wrote: “The early civilization and writing of the Chinese were simply derivations from those of Elam and Chaldea, about and after the time of Gudea and Dungi [Shulgi], derivations carried eastward later on to the Flowery land, namely in the XXIII century before our era" (1). Damien Mackey’s comment: But for my revised version of Gudea, see e.g. my article: Prince of Lagash (4) Prince of Lagash “The comparatively late beginnings of the Chinese civilization showed themselves to be the outcome of an importation, not a distinct growth from common seeds, but simply a loan, a derivation, an extension eastward from a much older form of culture in the west. I was led slowly by overwhelming evidences, direct and circumstantial from the Chinese and W. Asiatic sides, to the unexpected disclosures alluded to, and which, however astonishing they may appear to those who have not followed the gradual advance of my researches, are now proved to be an assured progress of our knowledge and solid discoveries of historical fact" (1-2). "sifting all fabulous accounts, we find a residue of undisputable evidences showing a small number of families arriving in the N.W. of present China, and in possession of a comparatively advanced civilization which explains the enthusiasm of after ages for these men, and has left a deep impression surviving to the present day in the mental habits of the whole people. The existence of these feelings and beliefs would have been difficult and even impossible, should traces or traditions of savage beginnings, slow development of civilization, pictorial rudiments of writing, and successive progresses of knowledge by self-growth, have ever existed among Chinese, but nothing of the kind exists in their early souvenirs " (3-4). "Everything in Chinese antiquity and tradition points to a western origin. No Sinologist who has studied the subject has been able to ascertain any other origin for the Chinese than one from the West" (4). “C.J. Ball...a collaborator of The Babylonian and Oriental Record, in several papers published in the Proceedings of the Society of Biblical Archaeology, has concluded in favor of a close relationship of the Akkadian and Chinese language, a derivation (established by me in 1888) of the Chinese characters from those of Babylonia between Gudea and Khammurabi, and a migration of civilized Akkadians to China at that time" (xi-xii). Terrien de Lacouperie observed that the ancient Chinese records appear to describe the cuneiform writing of their Bak ancestors: “There are however in the ancient Chinese traditions several allusions which point in so precise a manner to the cuneiform writing, that we must mention them here. Shen-nung=Sargon was reputed to have used signs like tongues of fire to record facts, at a time when the ancestors of the Chinese were not yet acquainted with the art of writing, and Dunkit (modern Tsang hieh) whose name has the same meaning as that of the Chaldean Dungi [Shulgi] of which it was a rendering and under whom the Bak tribes were taught to write, made marks on clay like claws of birds and animals. The primitive writing was always compared to drops of rain finely drawn out and freezing as they fall. It is difficult to mistake in all this, most distinct descriptions of the cuneiform writing of south-west Asia" (5). The identification of the Chinese founders with the Bak people has been challenged by Firth, as referenced in my article "Ethnography, Biblical Studies, and Higher Criticism”. Indeed, there is some question whether specific tribal identification can be made due to difficulties of transliteration, changes of pronunciation, the lack of adequate original Chinese records from the earliest eras, and linguistic shifts over time. At best, we can say that Terrien de Lacouperie makes an interesting case for identification of the Chinese founders with the Bak tribes of Elam which falls short of the mandate of proof. Furthermore, our understanding of both chronology and the Sumerian language has changed considerably since Terrien de Lacouperie's day: In the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, King "Dungi" of Ur, under whom orthographic reforms occurred and tribes of the Sumero-Akkadian empire were taught to read and write, was believed to have lived in the twenty fourth century BC, leading Terrien de Lacouperie to postulate an exodus for the Bak tribes toward China in the twenty third century BC. Modern scholars now know "Dungi" as Shulgi of Ur, and assign his chronology to the twenty first century BC. Similarly, contemporary scholars date Gudea's rule circa 2144-2124 BC. Either Chinese migrations would have had to come after this time - which is certainly plausible in view of the lack of proven evidences of these forms of Chinese culture before this date - or they would have had to come earlier under a prior ruler, which is also possible. On the other hand, modern chronologies makes certain elements of Terrien de Lacouperie's theory more plausible. For instance, Sargon the Great's reign was attributed to the period of approximately 3900 BC by the Sumerian King lists, which have since been shown to contain serious chronological errors. Modern scholars accept a date in the 23rd century BC, which would explain a persistent memory of these events closer in time and place to the exodus of the putative Chinese ancestors. Yet the uncertainty of specific tribal identification does not allow Terrien de Lacouperie's overarching hypothesis to be lightly dismissed in demonstrating compelling similarities between Akkadian and Chinese language, culture, and technology. A few of the borrowings of China cited by Terrien de Lacouperie from Chaldea include: The remains and loans of Chaldean culture, which we can still now discover in the early Chinese civilization, are so numerous and bear on so many points that we cannot without difficulty summarize them with clearness ... The ancient Chinese, through their civilizers, had learned from Chaldea: the solar year; its duodenary division, with the system of an intercalary month, its subdivision into twenty-four parts, and into periods of five days; also the division of days into double hours, and a certain use of a period of seven days. They preserved from their early teachers the same fourfold division of the year into seasons; and they hand not entirely forgotten the symbolism of the names of the twelve months. Nor had they forgotten the allusions in the names of the planets and their symbolical colours the special colours... LaCouperie continues for many pages citing and documenting various Chinese borrowings from their Chaldean predecessors. …. China and the Great Genesis Flood According to the emphatic statement by Fr. Hieromonk Damascene at the top of this article: “Chinese history began with a Flood”. http://www.orthodox.cn/localchurch/200406ancientcnhist_en.htm Based upon what Dr. John Osgood has written about the watery traces of the Great Flood in the Iranian plateau: http://creation.com/a-better-model-for-the-stone-age-part-2 Prior to the earliest appearances of man in the Iranian Plateau, there is strong evidence of much residual water and of wet conditions, the sort of conditions we would expect following the great Flood. …. ‘Recent geological research has shown that at the time when the greater part of Europe was covered by glaciers, the Iranian Plateau was passing through a pluvial period, during which even the high valleys were under water. The central part of the plateau, today a great salt desert, was then an immense lake or inland sea into which many rivers ran from the high mountains.’ …. then it would make logical sense if “the earliest appearances of man” in China, further east than Iran, had post-dated the Great Flood. Now, Fr. Hieromonk Damascene tells of an early post-Flood account of the Chinese (op. cit.): 3. Chinese Recorded History in Light of the Bible Let us go back now and look at the recorded history of China in light of what we’ve just been talking about, that is, in light of the Biblical history of the world. We’ve already mentioned the oldest book of Chinese recorded history: the Shu Jing, or Book of Documents. This book was written in about 1000 B.C. and was based on material from the Shang Dynasty, which began in 1700 B.C. (1700 B.C., by the way, is 200 years before the time of Moses, who wrote the book of Genesis.) Even if we assume that the original materials for the Shu Jing came from the beginning of the Shang Dynasty in 1700 B.C., this means that at least 500 years would have passed from the beginning of China to the first written record of its history. Damien Mackey’s comment: These chronological estimates may need to be modified (presumably downwards) in the light of further revision. Back now to Fr. Damascene: The flood story was the most pervasive of all the other legends in ancient China. The Shu Jing records: “The flood waters are everywhere, destroying everything as they rise above the hills and swell up to heaven.” Since the Shu Jing only begins with Chinese history, however, this statement does not refer to the global [sic] Flood, but rather to the local flooding that was caused in China by the remnants of the Great Flood. The Shu Jing speaks of how, after the Great Flood, some of the land was not yet habitable because the flood waters were still inundating the land. This was certainly possible. The time between the Flood and the founding of the first Chinese dynasty was as little as 143 years, and we would expect that huge pockets of water would have been on the land at that time, which are not there today. …. These leftover Flood waters made parts of the land uninhabitable. At that time, according to Chinese history, there were the first righteous Chinese Emperors, Yao and Shun: the first emperors to offer the Border Sacrifices to Shangdi. To a man named Kun given the task of ridding the land of the flood waters, but he was not able to do so. It was not until Kun’s son, Yu, devised a new technique to channel the waters out to sea that the land was eventually made habitable. It took nine years for Yu to channel the waters out to sea. He became a hero because of this amazing feat. As a result, Shun turned the rulership over to Yu. Yu became emperor, thus beginning China’s first dynasty, the Xia. After that, China’s dynastic culture lasted almost another four thousand years. Fr. Damascene proceeds in the next section to describe a possible Chinese version of the Noachic Flood, the colourful story of Nu-kua: 4. Indications of Ancient Chinese Knowledge of the Creation and the Global Flood So, now we have looked at Chinese history in relation to the Bible. If we start with the most ancient record of Chinese history, the Shu Jing, we find that the history of ancient China matches very well with the history of mankind as recorded in the Bible. (The Shu Jing, by the way, was the source of Chinese history used by Confucius, considered by him to be the most authentic source of Chinese history.) Since the Shu Jing begins with specifically with Chinese history, however, it does not refer to Noah, or to what occurred before the Great Flood. Is there anything in ancient Chinese history that refers to the Great Flood or to what occurred before it? Yes, there is, but unfortunately it was written much later than the Shu Jing, and thus filled with legendary material. In the Huainan- tzu, written in the 2nd century B.C., we read the story of Nu- wa (also pronounced Nu- kua), whose name sounds a lot like “Noah.” The story says that, in very ancient times, the habitable world was split apart, waters inundated the earth without being stopped, and fires flamed without being extinguished. “Therefore,” the text reads, “Nu- kua fused together stones of the five colors with which to patch together the azure heaven.” This is perhaps a distorted retelling of the Flood story, over 2,000 years after it happened. The stones of Five Colors by which Nukua patched the heavens may be a legendary retelling of the rainbow that Noah saw in the sky after the Flood, which was to be a covenant between God and the earth that God would never again destroy the earth by water. …. Babel and the Dispersion “From a Biblical viewpoint, as did all of humanity, the Chinese descended from Adam, then Noah through the Tower of Babel incident. The amazing “Table of Nations” in Genesis 10, which chronicles the language groups and their destinations, mentions the "Sinite people" in verse 17, which probably became the Asian groups. The Asian people descended from language groups migrating away from the Tower of Babel after God confounded their languages. In all likelihood, the well-documented dynasties date to that event, while the prior ones were faded memories of pre-Flood patriarchs, preserved as legends”. This is a quote from Dr. John Morris’s article, “How Can the Chinese Dynasties Extend Back Many Thousands of Years?”: http://www.icr.org/article/how-can-chinese-dynasties-extend-back-many-thousan/ He presumes, as is common, that all humanity who survived the Flood was present at the Babel incident. I have often discussed the Creationist tendency to ascribe a universal meaning, such as “the whole world”, to the Hebrew phase (כָל-הָאָרֶץ) that we find, for instance, in Genesis 1:11: “Now the whole world had one language and a common speech”. The phrase can be used in the Pentateuch, for instance, to indicate merely the region of Moab – that is hardly global! Another common view, that the biblical Babel, “in the land of Shinar” (Genesis 11:2-3), was located in ancient Sumer (southern Mesopotamia), now also needs to be reconsidered. I have explained this in, for instance: Tightening the Geography and Archaeology for Early Genesis (4) Tightening the Geography and Archaeology for Early Genesis Fr. Hieromonk Damascene, too, in “Ancient Chinese History in Light of the Book of Genesis”, has taken it for granted that the original Chinese were present at Babel: http://www.orthodox.cn/localchurch/200406ancientcnhist_en.htm And well they may have been, but that cannot, I think, be taken for granted. He writes (and I do not necessarily accept his dates): Only 101 years after the Flood, evil abounded again; and therefore, as the Bible tells us, “the earth was divided.” This occurred at the Tower of Babel, when God confounded the languages, and people began to be scattered about the earth. The Tower of Babel incident occurred at about 2247 B. C. And it is soon after this point that Chinese history begins. The original people of China were undoubtedly a group of people (of unknown number) who traveled to China from Babel. It is probable that most of the people living in China today have descended from this original group. Many Christians who have looked into this question have suggested that, in the Genesis “table of nations” chronicling the language groups migrating from Babel, the “Sinite people” (Genesis 10: 17) could refer to the group that became the Asian peoples. Whether or not this is the case, here is a very interesting fact to consider: According to the Chinese records, the establishment of China’s first dynasty, the Hsia (Xia) dynasty, occurred in 2205 B.C. Modern scholars ascribe a somewhat later date of between 2100 and 2000 B.C. Therefore, depending on which reckoning one accepts, the establishment of China’s first dynasty occurred anywhere from 42 to 205 years after the approximate date of the Tower of Babel incident. That was the time it took for the protoChinese to migrate to China from present- day Iraq (the site of the Tower of Babel) [sic] and already begin their dynastic civilization. Fr. Damascene, who next goes on to refer to Dr. Morris on the subject of Babel, will proceed to attempt to refute the evolutionary view of Chinese origins with the hominid, Sinanthropus: Dr. John Morris points out that many of the language groups migrating from Babel “took with them technological knowledge which they put to use in their new homelands. History documents the fact that several major cultures sprang into existence seemingly from nowhere at about the same time— the Egyptians, the Sumerians, the Phoenecians [sic], the Indians, as well as the Chinese— and each possessed a curious mixture of truth and pagan thought, as would be expected from peoples only briefly separated from Noah and his teachings as well as the star- worshipping, pyramid- building heresy of Nimrod at Babel.” 5. About the Evolutionary Explanation of the Origin of the Chinese People Now that we have gone this far in our examination of Chinese history in the light of Genesis, a few questions may remain. First of all, it may be objected that, according to secular scientists, the first inhabitants of China were actually hominid ancestors of man. About thirty years ago, it was generally believed by evolutionists that the hominid ancestor of Chinese man was the Asian Homo erectus, otherwise known as “Peking Man” or Sinanthropus (meaning China Man). Sinanthropus was supposed to have lived from a million or two million years ago in China. Today, however, some scientists disagree that this Sinanthropus is really an evolutionary ancestor of today’s Chinese people. In fact, the whole field of paleoanthropology is becoming more and more confused as time goes on. The paleoanthropologists can’t agree on the evolutionary tree of man, and different parties among them have heated fights over this question. Now it is generally thought that there is not an evolutionary tree at all in relation to man, but rather a confused “bush.” If we look at the so- called ancestors of man, we can see that, in some cases they are extinct apes, and in some cases they are human beings. Sinanthropus, whose skulls have been found in China, is a case in point. What is this Sinanthropus? Clearly, he is a human being, probably one of the early settlers in China after the dispersion at Babel. He did not live two million years ago, which is an inconceivable amount of time. All over the world, recorded human history begins no earlier than about 2,400 B.C., which is the approximate date of the Flood. The radiometric dating methods that are used to get ages of a million or a billion years are based on untestable and unprovable assumptions, as the scientists who believe in them will admit themselves. (As an indication of hypothetical nature of these methods, rocks known to have been formed in volcanic eruptions within the last 200 years have yielded radiometric dates of up to 3.5 billion years.) Many secular and even evolutionist scientists today say that the distinction between Homo erectus and Homo sapiens (human beings) is an artificial one: Homo erectus, including Sinanthropus, is nothing else than a human being. This claim has been made by paleoanthropologists both in the West and in China (such as Wu Xin Zhi at the Institute of Paleoanthropology in Beijing). Professor William S. Laughlin (University of Connecticut), in studying the Eskimos and the Aleuts, noted many similarities between these peoples and the Asian Homo erectus people, specifically Sinanthropus (Peking Man). He concludes his study with a very logical statement: “When we find that significant differences have developed, over a short time span, between closely related and contiguous peoples, as in Alaska and Greenland, and when we consider the vast differences that exist between remote groups such as Eskimos and Bushmen, who are known to belong within the single species of Homo sapiens, it seems justifiable to conclude that Sinanthropus belongs within this same diverse species.” [End of quote] A Babel enthusiast, Gary Moyers, apparently influenced by Fr. Damascene’s connections between Chinese religion and early Genesis, “The Border Sacrifice”, has asked (also presuming that the early Chinese were at Babel): Is Chinese a Language of the Tower of Babel? March 4, 2012 …. I first heard of this possibility in the mid-90’s, as the Internet was coming of age. I had always been fascinated with the story of the Tower of Babel and wondered about the languages that came from the incident. Could some of them survived? What new forms and derivations did they take over the years? As I researched, I ran across the idea of Shangdi, the Chinese creator God. The literal translation of Shangdi is “the heavenly ruler.” I am not a scholar and won’t pretend to be. Still, I’d like to share some of the things that I’ve found and that are easily discoverable all over the Internet. Shangdi (sometimes interchangeable with Tian, or Heaven) was the single deity that the Chinese emperor worshipped from as long as 4000 years ago. Documentation has been discovered that shows the Chinese royalty offered sacrifices (called the Border Sacrifice) to Shangdi once a year. This practice continued until as recent as 1911. The Border Sacrifice As the emperor would begin the sacrifice, costumed singers would lift their voices in song, reciting the following lyrics (translated into a somewhat King James style): “To Thee, O mysteriously-working Maker, I look up in thought. . . . With the great ceremonies I reverently honor Thee. Thy servant, I am but a reed or willow; my heart is but that of an ant; yet have I received Thy favoring decree, appointing me to the government of the empire. I deeply cherish a sense of my ignorance and blindness, and am afraid, lest I prove unworthy of Thy great favors. Therefore will I observe all the rules and statutes, striving, insignificant as I am, to discharge my loyal duty. Far distant here, I look up to Thy heavenly palace. Come in Thy precious chariot to the altar. Thy servant, I bow my head to the earth reverently, expecting Thine abundant grace. . . . O that Thou wouldest vouchsafe to accept our offerings, and regard us, while thus we worship Thee, whose goodness is inexhaustible!” As the emperor continued the ceremony, he would recite the following words: “Of old in the beginning, there was the great chaos, without form and dark. The five elements [planets] had not begun to revolve, nor the sun and moon to shine. You, O Spiritual Sovereign, first divided the grosser parts from the purer. You made heaven. You made earth. You made man. All things with their reproducing power got their being.” All this sounds very biblical to me. The emperor’s words very clearly echo verses from the first chapter of Genesis. This, by itself, is fascinating and could prove that the ancient Chinese were knowledgeable of God, El Shaddai, and worshipped him. It doesn’t necessarily follow that Chinese is a language of Babel. If you take a look at the structure of the Chinese pictography, a different picture takes shape (excuse the pun). Chinese as a Written Language The written Chinese language is based on a series of representational pictures. Each picture has a certain meaning. When you combine two pictures, they take on a new meaning. For instance, if you drew a picture of a hand and a picture of a spear, you could assume the combination of the two would mean hunting. This is the essence of the Chinese written language, which is generally agreed to be somewhere between 4000 to 4500 years old. Looking at the Chinese language itself, you can clearly see that not only were they aware of the biblical story of creation and the flood, they also had a grasp of sin, salvation and redemption. All of this is pictured in the written Chinese language and it is still in use today! For instance, the Chinese symbol for the word garden, as seen here, is a combination of the symbols for dust, breath, two people and enclosure. The simple word “garden” is a beautiful picture of the formation of man, the breath of God which gives life, and the placement of Adam and Eve into the garden of Eden. Likewise, the symbol for “to create”, as seen here, is a combination of speak, dust (or mud), life and walk. Again, it is the imagery of God speaking life in to the dust and man arises to walk. The symbol for forbidden, or “to warn”, as seen here, is a combination of two trees and the abbreviated form of God. As the story progresses, the symbol for covet, or desire, as seen here, is a combination of two trees and women. And the imagery behind the word tempter is amazing. Take a look. Here’s a fun one. moving forward in time a bit to the flood of Genesis, the word boat, as seen here, is comprised of three symbols: vessel, eight and people (count them – Noah, his wife, three sons and three wives). And one of my favorites… Righteousness. It’s the combination of me and sheep. What a wonderful foreshadowing of the coming of our salvation through Jesus Christ. So, is Chinese a language of Babel? You tell me. It’s old enough. Its earliest speakers conducted rituals that mirror the Bible. Its written form tells the story of creation and the flood. It seems a likely candidate to me. Should a Chinese person tell you that Christianity is a foreigner’s religion, you can reply that quite likely the Chinese in antiquity worshipped the same God as Christians do today. Pretty cool, huh? [End of quote] Fr. Damascene even goes so far as to suggest that the famous Chinese Dragons arose from dinosaurs that still existed after the Flood. Whilst I would accept that dinosaurs may still, then, have roamed parts of the “earth” (the word here taken in a more global sense) - since my model of the Flood, while being vaster than very local (e.g. confined just to Mesopotamia), is not global - I find quite ridiculous the notion of certain Creationists (also held by Fr. Damascene) that Noah took on board the Ark dinosaurs, even baby ones. Fr. Damascene now gives his view on: 6. Chinese Dragons Another question arises: If, as we believe from the Biblical account, the earth is only several thousands and not billions of years old, and if Adam lived only two or three thousand years before the first Chinese dynasty, then how do we account for the dinosaurs, which supposedly became extinct seventy million years before the first man appeared on earth? This is a very fascinating subject to discuss, especially in relation to China. What about dinosaurs? Were there dinosaurs in China? The Censer Dragons, of course, are depicted everywhere in Chinese culture. But these are only legendary creatures, some will say. No, not at all. Later depictions of dragons, to be sure, contained fanciful elements, because they were drawn by people who did not see dragons themselves but had only heard about them from others or from historical sources. But dragons did live contemporaneously with humans in the history of ancient China. Dragons are written about in ancient Chinese annals, and not as imaginary creatures, but as real live animals. It is known from Chinese history that certain parts and fluids of dragons were used for medicines. And one historical account even mentions a Chinese family that bred dragons to be used to pull the Royal Chariot during Imperial processions! What the ancient Chinese wrote about dragons fits in with what ancient people all over the world had to say about them. In all the ancient cultures of the world, people wrote about seeing dragons or killing dragons. They painted pictures of them or, in the case of some Central American cultures, made statues of them. Many of the historical descriptions and depictions of dragons match precisely with the physical features of known dinosaurs such as Triceratops or Tyrannosaurus Rex. They were not called dinosaurs then, because the word “dinosaur” was not invented until 1841 (by the way, it was invented by a Christian scientist who believed the Biblical account of origins). When the army of Alexander the Great (356- 323 B.C.) went through India, they went to see a dragon living in a cave, which the Indians worshiped as a god, bringing it sacrificial food. This is only one of many historical accounts of dragons from places in the world other than China. One of the Holy Fathers of the Church, St. John Damascene (A. D. 674- 750), wrote of dragons as actual creatures that still existed in his time in small numbers. When people with an evolutionary frame of mind read of such things, they automatically think of them as legends. But it is very hard to explain why peoples from all over the world have spoken of dragons as real, living creatures. From these accounts from all over the world, we know that some dinosaurs went onto the Ark with Noah (probably as babies) [sic]. There is much evidence that, after the Flood, the climate and conditions of the earth became harsher; and thus the dinosaurs had a more difficult time surviving (hence Alexander the Great’s army saw one living in a cave). They did spread all over the earth, since people from China to South America tell of seeing them. But they were much more rare than other creatures, and they eventually died out due to the new conditions of earth and also, undoubtedly, to the fact that people killed them because they saw them as a threat. To the ancient Chinese, dinosaurs or dragons were a symbol of power. It was natural that they would be fascinated with them and make them such a frequent subject of their art, because of all the land creatures that ever lived, what was greater and more powerful than a dinosaur? Finally, Dr. D. Livingston tells, in “The Flood and Subsequent Civilization”, http://davelivingston.com/postfloodciv.htm of a theory connecting the early Chinese with the mysterious Olmecs of Mexico: …. Tale of Two Cultures: Ancient Chinese Dynasty Linked to New World's Earliest Civilization Abroad for the first time in his life, Han Ping Chen, a scholar of ancient Chinese, landed at Dulles International Airport near Washington, D.C., the night of September 18, 1996. The next morning, he paced in front of the National Gallery of Art, waiting for the museum to open so he could visit an Olmec exhibit -- works from Mesoamerica's spectacular “mother culture” that emerged suddenly with no apparent antecedents, 3,200 years ago. After a glance at a 10 ton basalt sculpture of a head, Chen faced the object that prompted his trip: an Olmec sculpture found in La Venta, 10 miles south of the southernmost cove of the Gulf of Mexico. What the Chinese scholar saw was 15 male figures made of serpentine or jade, each about 6 inches tall. Facing them were a taller sandstone figure and six upright, polished, jade blades called celts. The celts bore incised markings, some of them faded. Proceeding from right to left, Chen scrutinized the markings silently, grimacing when he was unable to make out more than a few squiggles on the second and third celts. But the lower half of the fourth blade made him jump. “I can read this easily”, he shouted. “Clearly, these are Chinese characters”. …. Chinese Dynasties and the Bible’s Chronology “The comparisons between Chinese and Biblical chronology are so many that many mythologists have admitted that they must have been inspired by the same source”. Roy L. Hales Roy L. Hales has shown in brief outline, in his article, “Archaeology, The Bible and The Post-Flood Origins of Chinese History”, how early Chinese dynastic history follows a definite biblical (Genesis) pattern: http://www.creationism.org/csshs/v06n2p04.htm …. During the past century many theories of a western origin for Chinese civilization have been proposed. One of the best documented attempts was based on the similarity of neolithic pottery in eastern Europe and China. It was discarded because archaeologists believed that any such large scale migration should leave abundant evidences in the intervening lands and that evidence was not available. On Biblical presuppositions, of course, we might expect no intervening link because the migration to distant lands occurred rapidly after the Tower of Babel episode. An examination of Chinese tradition, and the legends of the equally ancient Far Eastern Miao tribes, suggests that China was colonised after a flood like that described in the Bible. THE FLOOD The flood was as important in the ancient mythologies of the peoples of China, as it is to Scripture. Many primitive peoples described it as a catastrophe of Biblical dimensions. The Miao Legend states that a single human couple escaped the deluge in a wooden drum, and then gave birth to the first members of post flood humanity. …. The Shu King, China's first "history", states: destructive in their overflow are the waters of the inundation. In their vast extent they embrace the hills and overtop the great heights, threatening the heavens with their floods. …. WORLD PRE-FLOOD GENEALOGIES Yu, the Chinese "Noah", overcame the flood waters, but he and his immediate predecessors are of a lineage well known to world mythology. The Bible, the ancient Sumerians and the Chinese all cite a chronology of ten rulers whose last member was the hero of a Great Flood epoch. Similar legends are known from Greece and India. Some modern scholars have recognised the unity of these genealogies and suggested they may have originated in ancient Sumeria. In our Biblical framework, the great flood was an actual event and each of these traditions indigenous to the lands where they are found. Such a currency of like traditions is to be expected on the basis of Scripture, and on that basis Miao are quite correct in ascribing the whole of post flood humanity to a single family. A BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION OF CHINESE ARCHAEOLOGY A Biblical interpretation of China's village culture must necessarily cut 3,000 years off the current reconstruction of that nation's Neolithic era. The vast bulk of early cultures, the Yang Shao and Lung Shan among them, would be incorporated as components of Hsia dynasty times (2205 B.C. to 1766 B.C.). The earliest villages would not have been more than a few hundred years earlier. SIMILARITIES OF SUMERIAN AND CHINESE CULTURE Genesis 11:2 states that after the flood mankind found a plain in the land of Sinar …. and settled there. There are evidences in China's culture that indicate a Sumerian origin. The term "black-headed people" for their own race, and an emphasis on astronomy and mathematics in early times are common to both cultures. Furthermore, the identity of a great body of astronomical lores and astrological superstitions, the use of methods of measurement, the cycle of sixty and decimal system, the belief in interrelation and correspondence of five elements, of five colors and the harmony of numbers, together with a multitude of other customs on the part of both the Chinese and Chaldeans cannot be explained as merely co-incidences. …. …. MIAO TRADITIONS OF BEGINNINGS AND THE MIGRATION Hugo Bernatzek found traditions of another homeland and an ancient migration from among the Miao tribes who now live in Thailand. The first two human beings, a brother and sister, supposedly appeared after “the earth was flooded by the ocean”. …. The Miao also talk of a “golden age” before weeds grew in the field and of how ripe grain flew through the air into men's houses. This age came to an end when one lazy woman disobeyed her husband and didn't sweep the house clean to receive the ripe grain. There are stories, too, of an original homeland many years journey to the north where the days and nights are six months long and it is very cold. …. A missionary named F.M.L. Savina had earlier collected the stories of the Miao who lived in southern China. These people also spoke of the “golden age”, indicating that it had ended when a woman picked some forbidden strawberries. They told of how a brother and sister had escaped the flood waters in a wooden drum and how all post flood humanity was descended from them. Then there came a time when mankind grew numerous and tried to reach heaven with a ladder. The “Lord of Heaven” struck these few dead with lightning. Before this time all people had spoken one language: now they were given many languages and, not being able to understand one another, separated. The Miao went to a land where the days and nights were six months long. They eventually migrated into Honan province, in China, and were in possession of that land when the Hia or “Chinese” arrived. …. BlBLlCAL ASPECTS OF MIAO AND CHINESE LEGENDS Both Miao and Chinese traditions assume several Biblical sounding aspects. Miao legends mention an original “golden age” lost to mankind through disobedience, a great flood and the subsequent dispersal of the human family throughout the world. Chinese tradition possesses no fall Story, and no migration epic, but lists a number of pre-flood characters who are very similar to those found in the Bible. THE FIRST TEN CHINESE EMPERORS Stories of the first ten emperors of China follow a chronology much like that of the first ten generations of Genesis. Like Adam, the first emperor was specially created, ruled “over the earth” (Genesis 1:28) and wore the skins of animals. Shen-nung, the second emperor, was like Adam's son Cain in that he was the first farmer, who invented the plow and instigated the first markets. During another emperor's reign cattle were first herded, pitch pipes were invented and the first instruments of bronze and iron fashioned: Genesis 4:19-22 attributes these innovations to the sons of Lamech. The seventh man of each list was a bigamist. Noah and Yu, the tenth members of their lists, were flood heroes who developed a limp during the course of their labours and who were associated with the discovery of wine. …. The comparisons between Chinese and Biblical chronology are so many that many mythologists have admitted that they must have been inspired by the same source. These modern scholars suggest that both traditions evolved from Sumerian legends, but there are far more resemblances between Chinese and Biblical tradition than exist between the myths of Sumeria and China. SUPPOSEDLY OLDER CHINESE TRADITIONS Numerous pre-Imperial personalities would appear to refute the thesis that the Imperial/Biblical generations are historical, but these myths in many ways actually strengthen the Scriptural link. Many of the stories can be dismissed as late inventions. Others, of an obvious antiquity, often demonstrate claims contemporary to the Imperial line and Scripture. For instance, Suei Jen taught men how to make fires and set up markets: innovations also claimed by pre-flood emperors and, at least in regard to markets, Cain. The flood waters followed and when they had covered seven-tenths of the earth Kung Kung took advantage of mankind's Compressed situation to make himself king. Alternate versions relate that Kung Kung was an inept official who failed to halt the rising flood waters and that he was the father of Yu (Noah, in the present thesis). The similarities between these mythical fragments and the Imperial chronologies are such that they may have descended from alternate traditions of the same era. …. MIAO AND CHINESE MIGRATIONS INTO CHINA The Miao claim to have migrated into China prior to the Chinese and there are many evidences that support such a claim. Ch'ih Yu, the third emperor, was the [chieftain] of the Li tribes who are part of the Miao race. Some, admittedly late, traditions state that Huang Ti led the Chinese out of the northwest and into China at this time. Huang Ti 's overthrow of Ch'ih Yu, which must be regarded as a Miao/Chinese struggle, is the first war of Chinese history. Whatever historical basis these legends may have, however, they appear to be chronologically misplaced. The entire sequence of preflood Imperial history appears to be like that of the Bible, and Huang Ti is in the middle of this sequence. Furthermore, both Miao and Biblical chronologies cite these events as occurring after the flood. A far more logical candidate for leading the post flood migration to China is Yu, who established the Hsia dynasty (2205 B.C. 1766 B.C.) after the flood.12 YU LED THE "CHINESE" INTO CHINA Within the legends of Yu are hints of two personalities: a flood hero and a migration leader. During the course of his labours, Yu paced the length of the earth. He then established the Hsia dynasty and cast nine caldrons which became symbolic of his dynasty. The origin of the metal for these caldrons which represent the nine provinces of China is problematic: one authority insists this material came from the nine regions (of the empire)", another states that the metal was “brought from far off countries by the nine shepherds”. …. The second interpretation supports a colonization hypothesis, especially when we consider the strong sheepherding traditions of Sumeria and the Balkan regions of eastern Europe. Further hints as to Yu's migration are gained through his father, Kung Kung. One Chinese tradition asserts that when flood waters covered seven-tenths of the earth Kung Kung took advantage of this fact to extend his rule over all of them. Miao tradition states that mankind grew numerous after the flood, but then dispersed after the "confusion of the tongues". Scripture mentions that mankind settled in the land of Shinar … after the flood and that a certain Nimrod established his kingdom there: then came the confusion of tongues and dispersal. Yu's claim to be the son of Kung Kung (Nimrod, in this thesis) may or may not be true, but he probably took the idea of “empire” with him to China. …. DISTORTION OF CHINESE TRADITION In time, egocentric ideas of Chinese superiority and of the emperor as the “Son of Heaven” came to distort the traditional chronologies of beginnings. The flood was remembered, but China is the only culture which claims to have conquered its flood and the conqueror was, of course, an emperor. That this “emperor” led the Chinese into their future homeland is most probable. His recasting as “Noah” seems quite natural in a culture which came to disregard anything not Chinese. Omitting the foreign episodes, there was nothing before Yu except the flood. ….

Sunday, October 19, 2025

Egypt’s so-called Sixth Dynasty as an example of kinglist repetitions

by Damien F. Mackey The effect of Dr. John Osgood’s revision of ancient Egypt will be to have Joseph’s Famine in Abram (Abraham’s) Famine era, and Joseph himself in the era of Moses. Consequently, Moses gets squeezed out. Revisionist historians, whilst being keenly aware of the fact that the biblical chronology cannot be fitted to the enlarged conventional chronology of ancient Egypt, on the one hand, are nonetheless falling into the trap of, on the other hand, imagining that they must account for each and every ruler in the over-inflated Egyptian king lists. Regarding my first point here, Dr. John Osgood has nicely summed up his view, and that of others – which would also be my view – in the Preliminary Comments to his article: exodus_egyptian-history_osgood_reply2.pdf “The Place of the Exodus in Egyptian History: Reply #2” (Answers Research Journal 15 (2022): p. 129): Let me point out that Porter, Habermehl, and myself hold that the scriptural chronology is basic to understanding the history of the ancient world. We all hold that the presently accepted secular history/chronology, based on a particular interpretation of Egyptian records in no way represents the real timeline of the ancient world. All of us hold to a sincere attempt to find a satisfactory correlation. But as with all such complex tasks, there will obviously be differences of opinion, which will be open for reasonable criticism. …. [End of quote] While Dr. Osgood will progress from there, basing himself upon the helpful research of Dr. Donovan Courville (The Exodus Problem and its Ramifications, 1971), chronologically to fold – though not to merge – Egyptian kingdoms (Old and Middle), he will not, in his revision, take the less adventurous, but vitally necessary, step of merging dynasties and rulers. He continues on from those Preliminary Comments, with an explanation of his and Courville’s Old-Middle reform: One factor that has emerged, however, is the fact that quotes are made, I believe in sincerity, without adequately understanding the original author’s presentation. And this factor has clearly emerged in the foregoing presentations, both by Habermehl (2022) and Porter (2022). Both Courville (1971) and my own presentations have clearly not been fully grasped, as I will point out. First, Habermehl (2022) has suggested that my placement of the Exodus on the Egyptian secular timeline dates to 2150 BC. That is not so. On that timeline it fits at approximately 1750 BC, that is, just after the secular date for the fall of the Twelfth Dynasty. The correct date that I adhere to is the biblical one, reasoned at 1446 BC. Second, while I hold to, at least a partial parallel rule of the Sixth Dynasty with the Twelfth Dynasty, at no stage have I expressed the sentiments that the Exodus occurred at the fall of the Sixth Dynasty, but rather the fall of the Twelfth Dynasty, which was the dominant one of the period. Parallel Dynasties Habermehl (2022) appears to show some exasperation with Courville’s suggestion of parallel dynasties, but such is misplaced, as even at least one secular Egyptologist accepts that this was the case. I quote Olga Tufnell (1984, 155), re the Turin Canon: There is one point about the composition of the Turin Canon—indeed all ancient king-lists—which needs emphasizing since it plays a significant role in the present chapter. Dynasties or other groupings of kings are usually listed as if in a single chronological sequence so that exterior controls are required in order to define contemporary, competing or overlapping dynasties. Precisely this situation is evident in the Turin Canon in both the First and Second Intermediate periods. I have pointed out (Osgood 2020) that Manetho’s king-list is arranged sequentially on a geographic basis, so that widespread overlapping is still consistent with that author’s arrangement. Parallelisms should not surprise anyone. When Ethiopian Piye invaded Egypt he found at least 20 kings, as did Assurbanipal in 664 BC. Now it is clear that Habermehl (2022) has mistaken Courville’s arrangement of the Archaic period, having Courville (1971) claiming a parallel arrangement of Second and Third Dynasties. That is not correct. Courville’s arrangement is a parallelism of the Third Dynasty with the end period of the First Dynasty. Moreover, he devotes considerable space to detail that arrangement. Courville (1971) points to a king of the First Dynasty, that is only in Manetho’s king-list, and not the others, with a Greek name “Kenkenes”. He makes a considerable case for this person being Sekhem Ka, Kha-Sekhem and later Kha-Sekhemui, who he suggests is the founder of the Third Dynasty during the time just before Uadji (Uenephres) of the First Dynasty, after concluding the religious wars and setting up an administration in Memphis parallel with the First Dynasty. Such would make the famine of Uadji the same famine as that of Djoser, and the same as the famine of Abraham’s day. Moreover, it would bring Kha-Sekhemui into close timeline with Djoser. He therefore places Kha Sekhemui, not as the last of the Second Dynasty as suggested in the sequential arrangement, but the first of the kings of the Third Dynasty, parallel to the later First Dynasty. In contrast, these were arranged by Manetho sequentially. Habermehl (2022) rightly points to the idea that we both accept a contemporaneity of the Sixth Dynasty and Twelfth Dynasty but mistakes my arrangement. First, the Sixth Dynasty was not only in the south, as it was centred in Memphis. It almost certainly had a subordinate rule, but not necessarily without a degree of independence. Second, as a result of the findings at the heavily trade-related city of Byblos, it is clear that the reign of the last significant king of the Sixth Dynasty, Piopi II, was over by the time of Amenemhet III of the Twelfth Dynasty, and that the Sixth Dynasty thus almost certainly began slightly before the beginning of the Twelfth Dynasty. The next and following kings at Memphis were some distantly related kings to the Twelfth Dynasty. They represented the early Thirteenth Dynasty as a sub-administration at Memphis, during the last few years of the Twelfth Dynasty. I have a paper in preparation outlining this early Thirteenth Dynasty in some detail. [End of quotes] In the space of a few paragraphs here, Dr. Osgood has, unwittingly to be sure, managed (my opinion, only) to undo the force of the noble sentiments as expressed in his Preliminary Comments, “to … attempt to find a satisfactory correlation”, whilst wisely allowing that “there will obviously be differences of opinion, which will be open for reasonable criticism”. For, the effect of Dr. John Osgood’s revision of ancient Egypt will be to have Joseph’s Famine in Abram (Abraham’s) Famine era, and Joseph himself in the era of Moses. Consequently, Moses gets squeezed out. Chaldean lists set the pattern The much later Chaldean king lists can provide us with a working model of how I think one ought to proceed. In my article: Chaotic King Lists can conceal some sure historical sequences (2) Chaotic King Lists can conceal some sure historical sequences I argued that the Chaldean succession (I also discussed the Assyrian lists) can by no means be fitted to the clear biblical evidence, for example from the Book of Daniel. Daniel 5 has (i) Nebuchednezzar the Great (v. 18), followed by his ill-fated son (ii) Belshazzar (v. 22), followed by (iii) Darius the Mede (v. 31). Bang, bang, bang - no ifs and buts, no gaps! The over-inflated Chaldean lists will not allow for a meeting between “secular history” (Dr. John Osgood’s description) and the biblical facts. Here is the too lengthy version of the Chaldean list with which the text books ‘gift’ us: Nabopolassar Nebuchadnezzar [II] Evil-Merodach Neriglissar Labashi-Marduk Nabonidus Let us unpack this. Biblically, there should be, not six, but only three kings – and so, in actual fact, there are. Firstly, as pointed out in my article (above), there is the need for the merging – not just overlapping as Drs. Courville and Osgood would have it – of kingdoms (Middle and Neo in the case of Assyro-Babylonia). Thus, Nebuchednezzar so-called II was the same as Nebuchednezzar so called I (the same goes for Merodach-baladan I and II, and for the Elamite Shutrukids, and so on): The 1100 BC Nebuchednezzar (3) The 1100 BC Nebuchednezzar Nebuchednezzar has been triplicated in the Chaldean list: Nabopolassar = Nebuchadnezzar [II] = Nabonidus The assassinated Belshazzar, who should follow in the list after Nabonidus, his father, has been duplicated: Evil-Merodach = Labashi-Marduk The one who succeeded him, Neriglissar, Nebuchednezzar’s long-serving high official, Nergal-sharezer (cf. Jeremiah 39:3), is the 62-year old Darius the Mede (Daniel 5:31). It is well known that Belshazzar was the son of Nabonidus. And Baruch 1:11, 12 reveals Belshazzar to have been the son, likewise, of Nebuchednezzar. Evidence that Evil-Merodach (Amēl-Marduk), prior to his rule – and exactly like Belshazzar – had to take control of Babylon while his father was indisposed/absent, can be read in my article: Book of Daniel sorts out Babylonian kings (7) Book of Daniel sorts out Babylonian kings Consequently, I have no doubts whatsoever that Evil-Merodach (Amēl-Marduk), the son of Nebuchednezzar, was the very same person as Belshazzar, the son of Nabonidus. Egyptian king lists must likewise be shortened Now our biblically compatible matrix as presented for the Chaldeans and Medo-Persia shows precisely what must be done with Egypt’s Sixth Dynasty, as well as the dynasty with which Drs. Courville and Osgood have approximately aligned it, the mighty Twelfth Dynasty. As radical, indeed, as is the revision of Dr. Courville, of Dr. Osgood, neither has gone far enough with it (my simple opinion). The reality is even more radical yet! As with the Chaldean (and Medo-Persian) lists, the names given in Egypt’s so-called Sixth Dynasty, in its so-called Twelfth Dynasty, need to be at least halved in number. But that is not all. Instead of the Sixth and the Twelfth being only partly over-lapping, as according to what Dr. Osgood has written above, referencing Olga Tufnell (“competing or overlapping dynasties”): “… the Sixth Dynasty thus almost certainly began slightly before the beginning of the Twelfth Dynasty”, the Sixth Dynasty needs to be actually recognised as the Twelfth Dynasty. This Sixth-Twelfth is the very dynasty of the Egyptianised Moses. {I am focussing only on these dynasties here, but a full revision of the life of Moses needs also to include the Fourth, Fifth, and, partly, the Thirteenth, dynasties}. If I am right in saying this – and I believe the evidence to be overwhelming – then, as in the case of the Book of Daniel for the Chaldeans, and following Dr. Osgood’s principle that “… the presently accepted secular history/chronology, based on a particular interpretation of Egyptian records in no way represents the real timeline of the ancient world”, the Exodus account of the life of Moses in Egypt and Midian will determine the number of major pharaohs involved. Biblically and traditionally there were only two kings (plus a short-reigning female), after which dynastic termination there will emerge the Pharaoh of the Exodus. The first Pharaoh is the “new king” of Exodus 1:8, who began the Oppression of Israel - the infanticide king (vv. 15-18). The second Pharaoh is the one who sought the life of Moses, who thereupon escaped to the land of Midian (2:15). During that time the dynasty came to an end (4:19), with a female ruler concluding it. Let us unpack this. The Sixth Dynasty is given conventionally as: Teti Userkare Pepi I Merenre I Pepi II Merenre II Nitocris The Twelfth Dynasty is given conventionally as: Amenemes I Sesostris I Amenemes II Sesostris II Sesostris III Amenemes III Amenemes IV Sobekneferure The repetition of names in these two lists, especially the Twelfth Dynasty one, is far more apparent than was the case with the Chaldeans, in which we had a triplication. But let us begin with a strong link, that will enable us to span the conventional period from Teti (d. c. 2330 BC) to Amenemes (Amenemhat) I (c. 1990 BC) – approximately three and a half centuries apart. Teti was Amenemes, the first Oppressor king of Israel (Exodus 1:8), during whose reign Moses was born. Teti Sehetepibre was Amenemes Sehetepibre. Teti Sehetep-tawy was Amenemes Sehetep-tawy. Previously, I have written on this comparison, noting that Egyptologist Nicolas Grimal had also pointed it out (A History of Ancient Egypt, 1994): {Teti, I have tentatively proposed as being the same pharaoh as Amenemes/ Ammenemes I, based on (a) being a founder of a dynasty; (b) having same Horus name; (c) being assassinated. Now, Pepi I and Chephren were married to an Ankhesenmerire/Meresankh – I have taken Chephren to have been the foster father-in-law of Moses, with his wife Meresankh being Moses’ Egyptian ‘mother’, traditionally, Merris. Both Pepi I and Chephren had substantial reigns}. Grimal notes the likenesses: “[Teti’s] adoption of the Horus name Sehetep-tawy (‘He who pacifies the Two Lands’) was an indication of the political programme upon which he embarked. … this Horus name was to reappear in titulatures throughout subsequent Egyptian history, always in connection with such kings as Ammenemes I … [etc.]. Manetho says that Teti was assassinated, and it is this claim that has led to the idea of growing civil disorder, a second similarity with the reign of Ammenemes I”. Merenre is also thought to have been assassinated, which surely connects him to Teti/ Amenemes. He is to be found wandering through the king list, as Merenre I and II, just like Nebuchednezzar has been spread through the Chaldean list. In The Story of Sinuhe, the somewhat Moses-like hero has to flee Egypt after a possible assassination of Amenemes, Sinuhe now being in mortal fear of Sesostris I. In terms of the Twelfth Dynasty, this, the passing of Amenemes and the rise of Sesostris so-called I, is close to the very point of time when Moses flees to Midian. Dr. Osgood, though, by following Dr. Courville in identifying Joseph as the great Vizier of Sesostris I, Mentuhotep (see below) – and not as Imhotep of the Third Dynasty at the time of a seven-year Famine (Djoser’s), whom other revisionists, including I, firmly favour for Joseph – has effectively bundled out the historical Moses and has also situated the actual Joseph Famine right back at the time of Abram (Abraham). Thus he has written on Joseph’s Famine (“The Place of Dynasty VI and of the Exodus in Egyptian History: Further Comments”, Answers Research Journal 17 (2024), p. 413): “…. I have argued elsewhere (Osgood 2020, 153–190), in agreement with Courville (1971), that the Twelfth Dynasty was the Dynasty of Israel’s sojourn, and the collapse and Exodus occurred in the early Thirteenth Dynasty. No other collapse period in Egypt remotely resembles that event. Joseph’s famine on this revision then is the famine that lasted for many years starting in Sesostris I’s twenty-fifth year (1663 B.C.). It was prepared for in advance as mentioned under vizier Mentuhotep in Sesostris I’s eighteenth year, 7 years before (Grajetzki 2006, 42). This famine was also mentioned by the Upper Egyptian official/nomarch Ameny, known to be a contemporary, a famine which he also claimed to have prepared for in advance”. I fully agree with Dr. Osgood insofar as he writes: “… that the Twelfth Dynasty was the Dynasty of Israel’s sojourn, and the collapse and Exodus occurred in the early Thirteenth Dynasty. No other collapse period in Egypt remotely resembles that event”. He is able to reach this conclusion, quite amazingly, even though he has Joseph and the 7-year Famine pitched as late as the reign of Sesostris I, because he has taken the Twelfth Dynasty at its over-inflated face value. For, as I said right at the beginning: “Revisionist historians …. imagining that they must account for each and every ruler in the over-inflated Egyptian king lists”. There was nothing like a 7-year Famine at the time of the mighty Sesostris so-called I, who, in my scheme, that greatly shortens the Twelfth Dynasty, to: First Oppressor Pharaoh (Exodus 1:8) Amenemes I-IV Second Oppressor Pharaoh (Exodus 2:15) Sesostris I-III Female Pharaoh Sobekneferure equates to the second Pharaoh who oppressed Israel: Pharaoh Senusret I “Most records indicate Senusret’s [Sesostris’s] years as pharaoh as peaceful and prosperous for Egypt, despite indications of a possible famine during his rule. Trade flourished and provided Egyptians with cedar, ivory and other foreign goods. The many golden artifacts attributed to his reign reveal his rule to be one of wealth and affluence”. There is no compelling evidence to support any lengthy preparation for an impending disaster by the Twelfth Dynasty Vizier Mentuhotep. There is, on the other hand, massive evidence to show that Third Dynasty Egypt underwent enormous infrastructural development in preparation for the Famine: dams, waterways, canals, great grain enclosures such as Gisr el Mudir, etc., etc. Regarding all of this, see e.g. my article: Imhotep Enigma, his pharaoh was not Djoser, and proof for Egypt’s Third Dynasty Famine (10) Imhotep Enigma, his pharaoh was not Djoser, and proof for Egypt’s Third Dynasty Famine And it all becomes even more greatly amplified once the Third Dynasty is coupled with its so-called ‘Middle’ Kingdom partner, the Eleventh Dynasty – Imhotep (Joseph’s) pharaoh, Horus Netjerikhet, being the same as Horus Netjerihedjet (Mentuhotep II) of the Eleventh Dynasty. Nor does it stop there. The insignificant famine for Egypt (but not for Syro-Palestine) at the time of Abram (Abraham) cannot be the “great famine” (Manetho) at the time of Horus Uadji/Djet, as Dr. Osgood would have it. For the First Dynasty’s Horus Djet was the very same ruler as the Eleventh Dynasty’s Horus Netjerihed-djet at the time of Joseph’s long-enduring Famine: Taking a Djet to Djoser’s Famine (12) Taking a Djet to Djoser's Famine And, regarding Dr. Osgood’s Sixth and Twelfth correlation, while I would agree with his approximate date for the Exodus: “The correct date that I adhere to is the biblical one, reasoned at 1446 BC”, I would disagree with his follow-up to this: “Second, while I hold to, at least a partial parallel rule of the Sixth Dynasty with the Twelfth Dynasty, at no stage have I expressed the sentiments that the Exodus occurred at the fall of the Sixth Dynasty, but rather the fall of the Twelfth Dynasty, which was the dominant one of the period”. For, (so I believe) the Sixth and Twelfth were simply one and the same. Moses in the Sixth Dynasty Putting the Sixth Dynasty into its proper Mosaïc context, we have the founding Oppressor Pharaoh (Exodus (1:8), Teti, who equates to Amenemes - and recurring in Merenre I and II. At the other end, we learned that this dynasty terminated, just like the Twelfth did, with a female ruler (Pharaoh). In between there is Pepi I and II, from whom Moses would flee. Thus the conventional arrangement: Teti Userkare Pepi I Merenre I Pepi II Merenre II Nitocris ought now to become: First Oppressor Pharaoh (Exodus 1:8) Teti (like Amenemes) = Merenre I and II Second Oppressor Pharaoh (Exodus 2:15) Pepi I and II Female Pharaoh Nitocris (= Sobekneferure) That leaves only the short-reigning Userkare. Well, this Userkare was Moses, who, as according to tradition, ruled, then abdicated. The jealous Pepi would later write Userkare out of history with a damnatio memoriae, assigning his kingship to the “desert” (Midian): Userkare - Wikipedia “Although Userkare is attested in some historical sources, he is completely absent from the tomb of the Egyptian officials who lived during his reign and who usually report the names of the kings whom they served. The figures of some high officials of the period have been deliberately chiselled out in their tombs and their titles altered, for instance the word "king" being replaced by that of "desert". Egyptologists thus suspect that Pepi might have tried to erase all memory of Userkare from official records, monuments, tombs and artefacts. The Egyptian priest Manetho, who wrote a history of Egypt nearly 1,700 years later in the 3rd century BC, stated that Userkare's predecessor Teti was murdered, but is otherwise silent concerning Userkare. Consequently, some Egyptologists consider Userkare to have been a short-lived usurper to the throne. Alternatively, he may have been a legitimate short-lived ruler, younger brother to a more ambitious Pepi I, or a regent who ruled during Pepi I's childhood before his accession to the throne”. Moses according to Tradition What gives power to this seemingly insane (some would more gently call it “fiction”) revision that I am proposing here – and it is something that I do not find interwoven into other revisions – is that two names handed down to us by the Jewish historian, Artapanus of Alexandria (C2nd BC), weave like golden threads through my revision. These names are “Merris”, the daughter of Pharaoh who drew baby Moses from the water (cf. Exodus 2:5-10), and “Chenephres”, who married her. He, who became hostile to Moses out of jealousy, can be found right through my revision for Moses (from the Fourth to the Thirteenth dynasties), under variations of the Greek name, “Chenephres” (including the inverted version of it, Neferkare). For example, we find him as the Fourth Dynasty pharaoh, Chephren (Khafre), who marries a Meresankh (= “Merris”). Yes, the Hebrew slaves played a big part in building the pyramids (as per Josephus), the Giza pyramids and other Old Kingdom and Twelfth Dynasty pyramids. Our “Chenephres” re-emerges again as the Sixth Dynasty pharaoh, Pepi Neferkare, who damned his predecessor, Userkare (Moses). Pepi married “Merris” (= Ankhesenmerire, an inversion of Meresankh). Again, “Chenephres” is the Sesostris I Neferkare from whom Sinuhe fled. {N. Grimal (op. cit., p. 164) gives Neferkare as his coronation name} And, in the Thirteenth Dynasty, “Chenephres” is probably the Sobek (Crocodile) ruler (like the female Sobek-neferure), Sobekhotep Khaneferre: Egyptian Pharaohs : Second Intermediate Period : Dynasty 13 : Sobekhotep IV “Neferkhare "The appearance of Re is beautiful", sometimes Khaneferre, "Beautiful is the Appearance of Re".”